Renewable Energy From the Deep Ocean

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Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) process and an ideal location in Puerto rico

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October 14, 2008

Slashedeyes

did he say 40 more? wowz…

October 16, 2008

rubentoabaja

How much will be the cost to build this in Puerto Rico? (100 mega watts plant). This 800 millions kilowatts are monthly or how often. what other use o benefits that we have as a result of this process. who are the builders of this technology.

October 17, 2008

sebastianhumbert

yes, there are experimental plants in Hawaii and possible plans for new plants in the pacific.

October 20, 2008

670ScratchNsniff

Can this OTEC system be able to function anywhere else besides the example in Puerto Rico? Preferably in the Pacific Ocean?

dmunoa

too amazing

October 24, 2008

TJPlocek

Cold deep water is continually generated in Artic and Antartic Oceans and flows as described in the video. It is continuously pumped to the heat exchangers using part of the electricity generated. Life span is expected to be over 25 years with routine maintainence. Corrosion resistant alloys and mild methods to prevent bioaccumulation of barnacles and other sea life have been developed.

October 27, 2008

TJPlocek

A cable to shore is much less expensive than hydrogen generation for initial near shore OTEC units.

October 28, 2008

WOLFMAN1469

Few question i have about the system. using your graphical design as a reference, wouldnt the cold water need to be continuosly pumped up from the depths? how would you maintain the flow and the tempature of the water? what is the expected life span and maintainence cost of the equipment seeing that the salt water creates a highly crosive enviroment and what are the effects OF barnicles or ON other sea life

October 29, 2008

FlorinL68

Why expensive cable? The produced electricity can be converted (on side) in hydrogen…

October 31, 2008

windpowerrocks

I've got a few films tackling various issues on wind power…
And please do pass the link around :)

November 3, 2008

TJPlocek

OTEC is one of the safest power systems. A comparison of various power systems is in our recent presentation to CIAPR posted on our offinf web site.

The primary disadvantage is the high initial cost, but if they are made in Puerto Rico, this will create large numbers of good jobs.

November 6, 2008

the13joker

i support OTEC.

November 7, 2008

the13joker

A question to JTPlocek. Is it safer for the eviroment? does it produce any harm to the oceans at all? What are the disadvantages of this systems? and whe will it be implemented in Puerto Rico?

November 8, 2008

starwarsgeek8

But it will become more and more competitive as natural gas and coal prices inevitably go up, up, up, and away (after all is depleted)

November 10, 2008

BikiniBabe1985

If it generates byproduct desalinated water then it definitely will be implemented. Our civilization has clearly demonstrated that we do not know how to sustain fresh water sources through aquifers and rivers

November 13, 2008

TJPlocek

The cold deep water naturally rises over time, quite rapidly during upwelling events and at seamounts. The amount used in OTEC is very small compared to natural upwelling, well below the natural variations from year to year. OTEC takes a part of what happens naturally and captures a small percentage of the energy rather than having it dissipate unused. The end result is what would happen anyway, in a way similar to hydropower. Rainwater returns to the sea with or without a dam.

November 16, 2008

TJPlocek

It is competitive with Natural Gas but not Coal without carbon dioxide capture. As units are built, costs will come down. The first units are competitive with oil at about $80 a barrel. Also it is the only energy source that can generate byproduct desalinated water. The hybrid design can produce water and electricity together at lower cost than any other method.

November 18, 2008

BikiniBabe1985

The big question is what kind of energy balance could we get from this source. If it does not prove cost competitive with coal and/or natural gas it will not be implemented.

November 21, 2008

thenickman26

still a tint change to the currents may produce a vast climatic change. just wondering does man really know what they are getting into?

i'm not a greenie just wondering about repercutions..

November 24, 2008

TJPlocek

Open Ocean OTEC Plantships can produce Hydrogen in addition to ammonia, which may become a preferred energy source since it is much easier to store and transport than Hydrogen. A key issue will be if ownership control can remain in Puerto Rico.

The impact on Ocean Currents will be tiny even when thousands of units are operating.

thenickman26

perhaps at the very lest the oil companies will instead use the electricity generated by this system to slit enormous amounts of water to Hydrogen and oxygen??
that way they will have a commodity they can sell on to the masses and still keep their profits..

one little concern:

there are a lot of Eco systems that depend on the ocean currents and their temperatures so how much will this affect the global environment????

November 28, 2008

TJPlocek

Most fish swim fast enough to avoid or swim out of the intakes. Slow fish are lunch for fast fish in the deep open ocean. There are also screens.

December 1, 2008

Joeey

it is going to kill the little fishies noooooo!

December 7, 2008

thedoorsbiggestfan

this method of subcooling and superheating propane produces mechanical energy!!!Brilliant!!!!

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